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Flight Paths over Roleystone 2 Months, 3 Weeks ago Karma: 5
Hi All,

As you may have noticed, there was a change in the flight paths recently and now large airplanes are flying directly overhead. This last week it has been driving me nuts. Seems to be every 10 min. It has totally ruined the tranquillity of our place.

In Nov 2008 there was the Western Australia Route Review Project (WARRP). As far as I gather, these fellas decided to move the flight plan from over the city to go over the Perth Hills.

It hasn't be a big problem for us until recently. My guess is people have been complaining in Mundaring - so they are moving the flight route further south. Now it is right above us.

If we say nothing - then nothing will be done.. So its up to us to do something about it. The longer we wait - the harder set in stone it will become - and Roleystone will become another airport town.

Airservices Australia collect complaints in a monthly report. If the complaints increase, they will shift the flight routes.

Ideally these flight routes should be over areas of high traffic or industrial noise - where they are less noticable above the ambient noise.

What to do?

1) Ring 1800 802 584 and lodge a complaint. These guys send a monthly report of complaints to the Airports.

2) Get onto the phone or email our Federal member of Parliament, Don Randall (08)9390 1211 Don.Randall.MP@aph.gov.au

3) Call or Email Alannah MacTernan on 1800605772 alannah.mactiernan@australianlabor.org.au

3) Read this site and take action http://www.fairskies.com.au/TAKE%20ACTION!

For more info - visit www.perthairport.com

I'm just getting to speed with this issue. If anyone has more info - add to this forum (and I'll update this info).

Are the flights bothering other people?
 
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Re:Flight Paths over Roleystone 2 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 1
Hey,
I have had the same problem in Bedfordale over the last couple of weeks...I rang the 1800 number and lodged a complaint regarding the noise...the operator told me that as the wind has been Northerly for the past couple of weeks that a flight path over Bedfordale area has been used. Last night there was planes at approx 11.45pm, 11.55pm & 12.05am, apparently they can request a curfew between certain hours. She also said that a number of conplaints from this area had been recieved.
I am not happy with this flight path being used, because like Roleystone, Bedfordale is also a quiet suburb.
 
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Re:Flight Paths over Roleystone 1 Month, 3 Weeks ago Karma: 0
Hi I have just moved up to Roleystone and couldnt beleive all the aircraft noise! So took your advise and complained to the 1800 number and Don Randal and hopefully they stop sending so many over here and we can all get some sleep
 
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Re:Flight Paths over Roleystone 1 Month, 3 Weeks ago Karma: 5
Good to see its not just me! Please keep reporting in so we know that there are others out there!

Another number to call is Alannah MacTiernan on 1800 605 772. Alannah is moving from state to federal politics and is contending against Don Randalls next Federal election. (I'll add that number on my first post.)

She has done a lot in the past for us, like stoping the 280 appartments on lot 62, and she helped stopped Galliers Maternal Hospital from closing. Maybe she can help us out again

Flights overhead seem to vary during the daylight times, but now they seem to be consistently flying over from about 11pm to 2am. This may be ok when houses are closed up for winter - but in the summer when the windows are open for ventiation and cooling - its going to be terrible.
 
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Re:Flight Paths over Roleystone 1 Day, 19 Hours ago Karma: 0
As a result of the West Australian Route Review Project (WARRP), three new flight paths are now directly over Roleystone – two for large commercial jets and one for turbo prop aircraft. There is also another one 3 to 5 km to the North.
The result of these changes has meant dramatically increased noise over our suburb. The arriving jets fly directly overhead at lower altitudes than should reasonably be expected in a Hills suburb 30km from the airport. They are also decelerating as they descend, thereby increasing the noise level.
The Councils of Bayswater, Belmont, South Perth, Canning, Gosnells, Kalamunda and Mundaring have all been involved in the WARRP since 2006 when the first consultations and discussions began. The City of Armadale however was never invited to be involved.
A recent Senate Committee Hearing into Aircraft noise was held in Perth on April 28, and as a result of that Hearing, the City of Armadale has now been invited to send a representative to the Committee. This is Cnr, Jeff Munn and I suggest you keep in contact with him.
According to Air Services Australia, there were no complaints about the new routes, therefore they assumed acceptance of them. It was a bit hard to complain when neither you nor your Council knew what was happening.
Many Roleystone residents forwarded complaints to our Federal Member, Mr Don Randall and also registered complaints via the Fair Skies Website and subsequently made submissions to the Senate Committee Hearing.
Air Services Australia log every complaint and only take action based upon the number of complaints received. I would urge concerned residents to register a complaint via the Air Services Australia Webtrak site: www331.webtrak-lochard.com/webtrak/per3 each time that they are affected by excessive aircraft noise. I report every one that disturbs me, even though it can be time consuming, I think it worth the effort. Also keep your local Councillor and MPs informed. (WebTrak is a Community Web replay which shows all flights). The arriving jets pass over with a frequency of less than three minutes apart at peak times when they are landing in the S to N direction on the main runway. This situation will worsen with the planned increases in air traffic over Perth. Flights are also allowed to arrive in the early hours of the morning and there will be no curfew in Perth as there is in Sydney and Adelaide. It should be noted that a very slight shift in the flight paths to the East would take the jets over uninhabited areas and avoid Roleystone altogether. Your complaint may help achieve this.
We are privileged to live in one of the most beautiful places on Earth. Don’t let the bureaucrats and general apathy rob us of this wonderful life style. If we want to preserve it, we’re going to have to fight for it. It is interesting to note that recent statistics from ASA showed that in 2010 there were 12 incidents and near misses, whilst in 2008 (prior to paths changes) there were 7. Whatever was causing the problems, it seems evident that it wasn't the flight paths.
Anyone interested in reading the transcripts of the Senate Committee Hearing can do so at: www.aph.gov.au/Senate/committee/rrat_ctt...e/hearings/index.htm
As a result of the Senate Cttee hearings a new independent Ombudsman for Aircraft Noise has been appointed (Mr. Ron Brent) and I would suggest that if you are not receiving satisfactory answers to your questions from ASA, then send a report to him. I am planning to do this as I cannot get any direct answers as to why the aircraft can't fly over the forest area slightly to the East which is unpopulated.
Keep up the fight or we will lose our beautiful lifestyle.
Pat Horne
 
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